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When he takes office, how confident are you that Donald Trump will make wise decisions about war and peace?

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1. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (12/15/2016 10:37:34 PM)
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There has been a lot of discussion regarding president elect Trump's seemingly unfettered admiration of Russian President Putin and his lack of understanding/appreciation of international affairs (case in point: the invasion of Ukraine).

Given Trump's lack of any experience in international affairs and depending mostly on his own instincts, how confident are you that Trump will make wise decisions about war and peace.

In Trump's campaign speeches he said :

(Chicago Tribune)

    "We will stop racing to topple" foreign governments "that we know nothing about," he told a crowd in Fayetteville, N.C. "We're guided by the lessons of history and a desire to promote stability — stability all over — and strength in our land. This destructive cycle of intervention and chaos must finally, folks, come to an end."

    This promise is particularly relevant to Syrian ruler Bashar Assad, whom President Barack Obama once called on to leave. It also will reassure Egyptian strongman Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi, who restored an autocracy that Obama's pressure had helped bring down. Trump has no interest in toppling dictators. His goal is maintaining order.

    So he says. But Trump's attention to the lessons of history goes only so far. In other places, he has heedlessly put stability at risk already. His blithe disdain for long-standing commitments and understandings invites a different destructive cycle that could make the previous chaos seem like ripples on a pond.

    Upsetting the status quo would violate a couple of basic axioms of geopolitics. One is not to push an adversary into a corner where his only option is war. Another is not to pick a fight where the enemy's stake is much greater than yours. By ignoring these rules, the president-elect runs the risk of unleashing the very turbulence he abhors.

    If his policy toward China is dangerously aggressive, his policy toward Russia is dangerously accommodating. Trump is famously enamored of President Vladimir Putin, and he has complained that our European allies are not paying enough for their own defense.

On the flip side, the wars in the middle east have certainly not gone well and watching Aleppo fall is heartbreaking, at least to this moderator.

Trump's secretary of Defense, General Mattis, is a seasoned general who has great support by almost everyone. Homeland Security has General Kelly at the helm and he also has an excellent reputation. The head of the NSA, a general with big credibility issue, but he was a loyalty pick and Trump's pick.

5 Big Foreign Policy Challenges For President-Elect Trump For detail on all the challenges stated below, please go here:

  • China

    One of President-elect Trump's biggest challenges will be managing what has become an increasingly contentious relationship between the United States and China.

  • Russia

    Trump comes to office at a time when U.S.-Russia relations are at their lowest point since the Cold War.

  • Syria

    The war in Syria has dragged on for more than five years, displacing millions of people, killing hundreds of thousands. Powerful countries — Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia as well as the U.S. — support different sides in the multi-factional conflict, but none has been willing or able to devote the political clout and firepower to ensure their faction actually wins..

  • Terrorism

    Trump inherits a war against the Islamic State entering its next act, with offensives underway or in the works against the terrorist strongholds of Mosul, in Iraq, and Raqqa, in Syria. U.S. commanders and Iraqi leaders hope the battle in Mosul might be finished or nearly over by the time Trump is inaugurated, but the Raqqa offensive may still be in full swing by the time he takes office — if it has even begun..

  • Trade

    Donald Trump's victory could have a profound effect both on U.S. and global trade, which is already slowing. Trump says he plans to make good on campaign promises to rip up or renegotiate free trade deals within his first 100 days in office..

What do you think? Are you confident or not that Trump will make wise decisions?

Do you think that a new perspective might make things in the world better or worse?

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2. Patricia Pomerleau CEOExpressSelect Member
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     (12/15/2016 11:47:44 PM)
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President Elect Trump just named a hard-liner as Ambassador to Israel.

Mr. Friedman, whose outspoken views stand in stark contrast to decades of American policy toward Israel, did not wait long on Thursday to signal his intention to upend the American approach. In a statement from the Trump transition team announcing his nomination, he said he looked forward to doing the job “from the U.S. embassy in Israel’s eternal capital, Jerusalem.”

Mr. Friedman, who has no diplomatic experience, has said that he does not believe it would be illegal for Israel to annex the occupied West Bank and he supports building new settlements there, which Washington has long condemned as illegitimate and an obstacle to peace.

It's going to be interesting.

Oy Vey.

3. Ray Riley
     (12/16/2016 12:43:23 AM)
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He's not taking his security briefings. The secret to good decision making is preparation, not winging it. He's putting himself in a position where he will be unable to make a good decision. Relying on instinct and luck is a great way to fail to make a good decision.

4. Noel Meyer
     (12/16/2016 5:32:15 AM)
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1. Trump's INEXPERIENCE is mind-boggling. HE would not hire even on the "APPRENTICE" such unskilled, inexperienced people over skilled, experienced and able candidates for the job.

2. False News, 'gut feelings', the Trumpian core of "I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU SAY, RIGHT OR WRONG" battle with reality is not the SMART MOVE in dealing with critical and explosive nations and issues.

General Electric prized FACTS - Reproducible FACTS, will tolerate 'gut feelings' only when production goals are exceeded. Quality Assurance, statistical proofs of concepts, these replace the flying by the seat of your pants 'luck' many business leaders of their own companies like to use when 'unchecked power' meets responsible governance.

3. Trump "TWEETS" responses no responsible head of state would send, provoking escalations of issues rather than resolving such issues.

4. Trump DENIES his 17 INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES, "because" he "feels" he KNOWS the facts, no supporting information does Trump present for his 'feelings', just that he has them............... how FEMININE of Trump. I think Victor would offer that Trump lacks 'critical thinking'.

5. Bathurst suggested in a the previous forum, "Someone said that Mr. Trump's enemies (and I think it is safe to include you in this camp) take him literally on everything he says"

This from an attorney where the meaning of words, LITTERAL MEANING and SELECTION of words used is a critical part of communication should be and represent the LEADER OF THE FREE WORLD.

6. Trump has shown a complete DISREGARD for his positions, promises and statements. I no longer know what Trump stands for :

a. Drain the Swamp? Don't see it.

b. TERM LIMITS? Even McConnell laughs at that Trump position.

c. The System is rigged, and when 17 of America's intelligence agencies say "Russia intruded in on the Election" Trump flip-flops and says "I won, the process if fine, Russia is his friend and a big friend to his proposed Secretary of State".

d. Obamacare will be destroyed, now Trump says the 'good parts' will be kept, the bad parts will be fixed (for the past 7 years, Republicans in Congress did nothing, no fixes, just used Obamacare as a campaign issue to rally their base.

e, "Upsetting the status quo would violate a couple of basic axioms of geopolitics. One is not to push an adversary into a corner where his only option is war. Another is not to pick a fight where the enemy's stake is much greater than yours. By ignoring these rules, the president-elect runs the risk of unleashing the very turbulence he abhors."

Yeah, what the Tribune said.

5. Michael O'Neill
     (12/16/2016 6:33:39 AM)
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Hard to tell. Since he's in Putin's back pocket war and peace might be fully negotiable depending upon what BFF Vlad wants him to do. On the other hand whenever the going has gotten rough he's taken three paths - he's either filed bankruptcy, filed for divorce or his daddy has bailed him out. None of these three options will be available to him as president. Just remember: whether your son or daughter, husband or wife is slaughtered in battle might fully depend on Trump's and his family's business investments.

6. D Robb
     (12/16/2016 7:13:58 AM)
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Having worked in a small slice of the Federal Bureaucracy. I understand the need for President’s to offer clear visions, plans and policies for the bureaucracy to execute. Trump is coming into office with coterie of similarly inexperienced people saying that he is going to make changes from day one. He is in for a BIG surprise. Republicans railed against President Obama’s Executive Orders and many of those he can repeal, but after…it will be very difficult for him. He and his inexperienced coterie of cabinet officials will find that there are all kinds of problems, unintended consequences, and legal impediments to implementing his campaign chants.
The problem will come when he decides to use the Admiral Dewey approach and tells everybody to damn the bureaucrats and lawyers, full speed ahead, just do it. It didn’t work for Nixon, and it will fail big time for Trump.
The only possible bright spot I can see is that Trump may force the Republicans and Democrats in Congress to work together to counter the damage he will try to do.

7. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/16/2016 7:33:22 AM)
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Quick kids, name three things that have gone well in the past 8 years, or for that matter the past 16?

And don't say Ocare, everyone under the sun agrees it needs to be fix, except Krugman.

Experience? Could one of these career government types be the CEO of a national corporation starting next month? The first question they would ask is, how many sick days do I get?

The election of Obama, empowered the progressives. They thought the folks would be lockstep in their groupthink. They embarrassed them into what to say, how to think. If you spoke up you were relegated to that dark corner, racism.

Along comes Trump and as we say, "thinks outside the box". He watched Romney turned into Lucifer by the machine, and came up with a winning plan.

The man thinks strategically. Obama is a typical tactician, a man who reacts and puts out fires. He doesn't see the low hanging fruit, he has no ability to build a consensus.

And most importantly Trump is a cheerleader. He makes people feel good about themselves, perhaps the most important role of a CEO. No more throwing people under the bus, it's us vs. them.

Just look at his after election rallies, HRC would be on vacation right now. Instead we have a guy that never stops, all for $1 per year. Remarkable. He embraces his enemies, he doesn't care who you are or where you come from. Lifelong Democrat? Doesn't matter, you're on his team.

Not exactly the partisan crap we are used to, and the Liberals don't know how to think.

Who moved my cheese?

8. D Robb
     (12/16/2016 7:34:32 AM)
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I posted previously about the difficulty of getting Congress to consider any actions to try to end waste in the Defense Department. Defense contractors have broken the code and they have spread their operations as widely as possible so if you attempt to cut a program you find that at least a half dozen Senators and probably double that number of Representatives oppose it.
This is another example. Believe it or not the Army and Marine Corps don’t use a common 5.56mm round.
The final joint version of the Fiscal 2017 National Defense Appropriations Act includes a provision requiring the secretary of defense to submit a report to the House and Senate Armed Services Committees explaining why the two services are using different types of 5.56 mm ammunition for their M16A4 rifles and M4 carbines.
The bill has already passed the House and is expected to be voted on and approved by the Senate this week before going to President Obama’s desk for his signature.
Trump is in for a very rude awakening. His tweets may inflame his base and some on this forum but they won’t help him with Congress or the Military-Industrial complex.

9. D Robb
     (12/16/2016 7:36:11 AM)
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Perhaps you missed this because it was on the previous forum:
Despite all the alt-right propaganda about President Obama, even a Faux News poll reveals that the economy today is much, much better than it was when he took office in January 2009:
Fox News Poll: Positive ratings for President Obama as he exits
By Dana Blanton Published December 15, 2016
President Obama ends his presidency with positive ratings for his overall job performance as well as his handling of the economy, according to the latest Fox News Poll.
Yet while more people feel positively about the economy today than have in more than a decade, not many say their family’s financial situation has improved since Obama took office.
One-third says the economy is in excellent (3 percent) or good shape (30 percent). That’s up 10 percentage points from 23 percent in January 2016 (2 percent excellent and 21 percent good).
Before Obama took office in 2009, just five percent of voters rated economic conditions positively (1 percent excellent and 4 percent good). Some 23 percent say it’s in poor condition today, down drastically from 74 percent (January 13-14, 2009).

10. Thomas C CEOExpressSelect Member
     (12/16/2016 7:40:24 AM)
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I do believe it will be the opposite, those bureaucrats have never encountered someone like Trump.

He threw away all the traditional tools, and despite great odds beat them all. That wasn't a fluke.

It was a person who saw a strategy and stuck with it. He rejected the donor class, the political class, turned the media around against themselves, before anyone realized what was happening.

Now their heads are like pretzels. Brillant.
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